This is an interview Glenn Beck did with Paul Broun. The path we are on is getting more dangerous by the minute!
September 8, 2009 - 12:28 ET
US Congressman Paul C. Broun
GLENN: I want to go to U.S. representative Paul Broun. He is again raising the Specter of Democrats turning the United States of America into a totalitarian state. Congressman, how are you, sir?
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Good morning, Glenn. I tell you freedom is too precious for us to not be ever vigilant to make sure that we stay engaged to try and protect that freedom and that's all I've been doing.
GLENN: You said that Obama may be a fascist. You said that back in November and you're saying it again now?
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Well, actually what I've said is that there are a number of things that someone who wants to establish an authoritarian type of government needs to do to be able to do so one of which is to establish a national police force, a national security force. In July of July 17th of last year, Barack Obama in a speech given in Colorado went off his prepared text and said that, to quote him, quote: We cannot concede or rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force just as powerful, just as strong and just as well funded, unquote. He said we've got to have it. Then the other thing that is necessary is to institute gun control. We know that Barack Obama has historically fought for gun control. He was the board member on the Joyce Foundation in Chicago that has supported gun control groups. He has put in place those folks around him that are very ardent supporters of gun control that have said, like Justice Sotomayor and Eric Holder and others who have said that there's not an individual right to own a firearm, et cetera. And then a third thing of many that they need but these three particularly, they need to control the media. There is a tremendous adoration of Barack Obama throughout the media. And then those of us who stand up and just raise the specter of the possibility of establishing authoritarian government, then we become Alinsky'd as you and I both have probably.
GLENN: Oh, yeah.
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: We both know that.
GLENN: There was a news outlet this weekend that referred to me as a terrorist. I mean REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Well, we saw the Homeland Security department say that people like you and me need to be put on a terrorist watch life. They say that Christian conservatives, pro life people, pro Second Amendment people, veterans even need to be put on a terrorist watch list. And I'm on the Homeland Security committee in the U.S. House. The secretary came and spoke to us and said that that should never have been released. Well, I guess not because it's a black eye on this administration.
GLENN: Hold on just a second. What about ELF? Didn't ELF blow up radio towers this weekend and say they were going to stop disinformation? I believe that happened in California this weekend. I believe they are the number one domestic terror group and yet they weren't mentioned in that at all. We have people that are blowing up the natural gas pipelines in Canada and yet nobody is talking about that. And I wonder why. Why did no one in the media really report, I mean really go after? They are talking about all these violent, you know, this is going to get violent at these town halls, going to be violence, violence, violence. Well, there was some violence. A guy had his finger bitten off by a supporter of Obamacare. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: That's right. In fact, Glenn, this morning in the Athens Banner Herald the editorial talks about the possible violence at my town hall meeting. I'm sitting just one thin door away from a meeting hall where I'm holding a town hall meeting. We have had information that the Obama folks are busing people in here to disrupt our town hall meeting. So not only that but to go back to these groups, we've seen these radical environmental groups who are terrorists. We have seen the radical animal protection groups like the Animal Liberation Front and all these other groups. But not only that, within the Obama administration we see his diversity czar that he's put in the Federal Communications Commission has said that they are going to have localization in radio stations to try to shut down radio talk shows like yours, Rush Limbaugh's.
GLENN: Of course, they have to.
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Yours voice and others, and give those radio stations to other entities who are going to parrot what they want to have happen. So I'm just extremely concerned about all the things that I'm seeing. We have to be ever vigilant to make sure that we do not lose freedom. I'm an original intent constitutionalist and I think the federal government should only be doing the 18 things that Article I, Section 8 says that it can do. In fact, on my website I've put forth four questions that ask myself about all legislative issues. The first, is it right. And that means does it fit the Jew day's Christian principles, the biblical principles that this nation was founded upon. Second, is it constitutional according to the original intent. Third, do we need it. And fourth, can we afford it. And all four questions have to be yes or I vote no, and I'll continue to do so. We need to stop this outrageous spending of government, we need to make sure that we don't lose your freedom. This health care bill is going to be absolutely disastrous. I've said in floor speech after floor speech that we have a steamroller of socialism being driven by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, being fueled by Barack Obama, and we've got to put a stop sign in front of that steamroller.
GLENN: You know what? I will tell you this. Congressman, I have tonight on television I'm going to show what the White House has just done with Van Jones and why it is so unbelievably dangerous. And I've been saying, and I'm going to explain it in another way tonight, how we have to be Gandalf and stand there on that bridge and say "You shall not pass!" You can't let these people there is no compromise. You can't let these people do anything for the one reason: We used to have a system where we had Democrats and Republicans. But the Democrats have been hijacked by the uber left. They have people Michael Moore was sitting in the presidential box in 2004 when I first warned about this and said you've got to get yourself away from these people.
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Right.
GLENN: Because they are socialists, they are communists, they are anti capitalists. And everybody laughed at the time. And look at Michael Moore this weekend. He comes out with a statement that says capitalism is evil.
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Right.
GLENN: You can't let these people in Washington make another move.
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: Absolutely. And that's exactly what Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid believe in, also, and we've just, we're sitting in a very precarious position as a country if we don't stop this steamroller of socialism. We are going to lose our freedom, we are going to be controlled by the federal government. The system of checks and battle are going out the window. The Supreme Court and the federal court systems do not use the Constitution in its original intent in the judgments that they hand down. The congress, and Democratic and Republican administrations alike, as well as the Democratic and Republican control of congress alike, we have seen the Constitution perverted and abused tremendously and we've got to stop it.
GLENN: Congress
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: The Constitution of the United States starts with three very powerful words, we the people. And it's going to take we the people standing up and say no to this steamroller of socialism, and I really appreciate what you do in bringing forth all this information about the czars, about what's going on on the federal government, and I just praise God for you and what you've been doing on your radio and TV programs.
GLENN: Thank you, sir. Listen, I want to ask you this because there are very few people like you. Michele Bachmann is another one that's willing to step out and get, you know, just walk into the buzz saw. Are you seeing more people now in Washington that are not playing political games? I was glad to hear you say the Republicans were just as bad before well, not just as bad but they were on the same road. They betrayed as well. Are you seeing more people here in the last couple of weeks in Washington wake up or is it the same ole, same ole? REPRESENTATIVE PAUL BROUN: We've been gone for five weeks for this August district work period and so it's been five weeks. I'll go back to Washington actually from this town hall meeting today. I hope that the Republicans and Democrats alike are waking up. I'll give you a good example of George Bush being wrong and taking away our freedoms with the PATRIOT Act, which was disastrous as far as taking away freedom and giving the federal government intrusion in people's lives. And I was totally against that. The Republican congress under the leadership of George Bush for six years were big spenders. That's what the '06 and '08 elections were all about. They were just acting like Democrats, big government Republicans. We've got to change it. It's up to we the people getting activated and saying no to this steamroller of socialism, no to big government. In fact, I talked to a guy the other day and he said that the federal government has two jobs and only two: One is to make sure that we stay secure as a nation and by protecting our borders and having a strong military. And second is just get the hell out of the way so he can run his life without all the government intrusion. And that's exactly what the federal government should be doing.
GLENN: Paul Broun from Athens, Georgia. U.S. congressman. Good to hear from you. I'd love to hear what happened at your town hall meeting. If it gets ugly, let us know, will you? Thanks, congressman, appreciate it.
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